Comments on: Ian Paisley and the Pope: The Return of Dr No? http://www.gladysganiel.com/irish-catholic-church/ian-paisley-and-the-pope-the-return-of-dr-no/ Building a Church Without Walls Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:23:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Gerard Barnes http://www.gladysganiel.com/irish-catholic-church/ian-paisley-and-the-pope-the-return-of-dr-no/comment-page-1/#comment-1747 Gerard Barnes Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:23:51 +0000 http://www.gladysganiel.com/irish-catholic-church/ian-paisley-and-the-pope-the-return-of-dr-no/#comment-1747 I've always regarded the Jesuits as being very intelligent, cosmopolitan people, but am shocked and incredulous to hear from Mr. Breathnach that they have run Irish society and some universities for decades. In what ways, can Mr. Breathnach explain, do the Jesuits have more influence and control over the thoughts of Irish Catholics than the Dominicans, the Redemptorists or the secular clergy who have passed through All Hallows or Maynooth College over the past 80 years of Irish political independence? I’ve always regarded the Jesuits as being very intelligent, cosmopolitan people, but am shocked and incredulous to hear from Mr. Breathnach that they have run Irish society and some universities for decades. In what ways, can Mr. Breathnach explain, do the Jesuits have more influence and control over the thoughts of Irish Catholics than the Dominicans, the Redemptorists or the secular clergy who have passed through All Hallows or Maynooth College over the past 80 years of Irish political independence?

]]> By: Seamus Breathnach http://www.gladysganiel.com/irish-catholic-church/ian-paisley-and-the-pope-the-return-of-dr-no/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 Seamus Breathnach Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:38:55 +0000 http://www.gladysganiel.com/irish-catholic-church/ian-paisley-and-the-pope-the-return-of-dr-no/#comment-1679 It is customary in the South of Ireland and elsewhere among Catholics to dernigrate the Rev. Ian Paisley -- and I have no doubt that there are times when he presents a picture that is evocative of humour rather than passion; but I have heard him described as demogogue, false prohpet, rabble-rouser, etc.. Personally, I have never found Mr Paisley to be insincere in anything he said -- passionate by all means, and usually accurate to a fault. And when defending his latest book on the Anti-Christ I have never heard a word out of him that was not directly researchable and true. I do wish some Catholics would learn something about their own history. Their priests keep them in such awful ignorance. Even if they read Wylie, on the History of Protestantism, they might get a grounding in Irish history -- a total non-entity to historians in the South. I heard him challenged on what the Pope does and has done in the world as to 1) creating sins: througout history, since its inception the Papacy has ordinary people -- like the Pagan Gaels -- appear as 'sinful heretics' and therefore executable, without ever having met one. How an Irishman could not know of this event is quite beyond me. 'Sins' are constantly being made by the Papacy in the same way as 'crimes' are being made regularly by Parliament. Not to know that is an affront to ordinary speculation. 2) Distrusting the Jesuits. The entire Republic of Ireland is run by a small coterie of the most ignorant celibate Jesuits one could find anywhere. Quite recently I witnessed one castigating the civil party Fianna Fail for not breaking ranks and voting against the Taoiseach. The same wretch has been fulminating on RTE for over thirty years and has not once found fault with his Pope, his Church or his Jesuitical Order; but has enjoyed the infinite privileges of the barrack he inhabits for decades. One could go so much further, but one need not. Everyone knows that all the 'universities' in Ireland are run by Jesuits, whose real if not only expertise is that they pray to Rome. . . If people like Ian Paisley had not written about Croatia, how would we find out about the depths of depravity the RC Church is capable of countenancing. They deny the holocaust, their earlier work in Spain, Italy, Portugal and Germany. They even deny ratlining the Nazis as they denied ratlining the clerical paedophiles. . . If we do not have people like Ian Paisley to resist the Roman Church, then we have no one who will or can do it. . . If one lives in Leprechaunland, how does one get out??? Do we really want to remain in the DARK AGES forever??? Seamus Breathnach It is customary in the South of Ireland and elsewhere among Catholics to dernigrate the Rev. Ian Paisley — and I have no doubt that there are times when he presents a picture that is evocative of humour rather than passion; but I have heard him described as demogogue, false prohpet, rabble-rouser, etc..

Personally, I have never found Mr Paisley to be insincere in anything he said — passionate by all means, and usually accurate to a fault. And when defending his latest book on the Anti-Christ I have never heard a word out of him that was not directly researchable and true.

I do wish some Catholics would learn something about their own history. Their priests keep them in such awful ignorance. Even if they read Wylie, on the History of Protestantism, they might get a grounding in Irish history — a total non-entity to historians in the South.

I heard him challenged on what the Pope does and has done in the world as to 1) creating sins: througout history, since its inception the Papacy has ordinary people — like the Pagan Gaels — appear as ‘sinful heretics’ and therefore executable, without ever having met one. How an Irishman could not know of this event is quite beyond me. ‘Sins’ are constantly being made by the Papacy in the same way as ‘crimes’ are being made regularly by Parliament. Not to know that is an affront to ordinary speculation.
2) Distrusting the Jesuits. The entire Republic of Ireland is run by a small coterie of the most ignorant celibate Jesuits one could find anywhere. Quite recently I witnessed one castigating the civil party Fianna Fail for not breaking ranks and voting against the Taoiseach. The same wretch has been fulminating on RTE for over thirty years and has not once found fault with his Pope, his Church or his Jesuitical Order; but has enjoyed the infinite privileges of the barrack he inhabits for decades. One could go so much further, but one need not. Everyone knows that all the ‘universities’ in Ireland are run by Jesuits, whose real if not only expertise is that they pray to Rome. . .

If people like Ian Paisley had not written about Croatia, how would we find out about the depths of depravity the RC Church is capable of countenancing. They deny the holocaust, their earlier work in Spain, Italy, Portugal and Germany. They even deny ratlining the Nazis as they denied ratlining the clerical paedophiles. . .

If we do not have people like Ian Paisley to resist the Roman Church, then we have no one who will or can do it. . .

If one lives in Leprechaunland, how does one get out???
Do we really want to remain in the DARK AGES forever???

Seamus Breathnach

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